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Can it be explained how the weather update on Android works? I've had situations where, if I have the weather update interval set to frequent (15 mins) or update manually, even though the refresh time is updated, the current temperature itself isn't. I can look on AccuWeather's native app (via my shortcut in XWidget), and, particularly in the morning or evening when the temperature is rising and falling pretty rapidly, the native site is several degrees F different than XWidget. Then, when I look at the XWidget weather details, it shows the last update being almost an hour ago per the attached screenshot. Most other widgets I've tested will bring in the most current conditions, especially if updated manually. Weather in my area changes too frequently for an hour-long delay to be acceptable. Is there a way to adjust how frequently XWidget updates from the server vs. local refresh time? Thanks.

That update time in the red circle shows the SERVER UPDATE TIME. Personally speaking, on the widgets, I always add the local time update.
Go to the weather options (through the weather details screen - 3 dots menu) and change the "update Interval" value. This will change the refresh of the accuweather server.

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I had the update interval there set at 15 minutes when the screenshot above showed 57 minutes. It appears that the update interval sets the frequency for performing the local update, not the server one. I just went to the weather details screen and, from there, performed a manual update. It clocked every so briefly, like it was doing an update, but then still shows, "Last updated 55 minutes ago". Way too infrequent to be useful to me going forward, since our weather and temp changes pretty often. I want to be able to see the latest, greatest, just like when I bring up the native app. Another inconsistency is that I put the server refresh time on my widget just to monitor. It's 20:24 now (8:24 PM). The widget shows the server refresh time as 20:03 (8:03 PM), but the details screen said 58 minutes ago, which would be 19:26. A couple of minutes later, the last update time on the details screen went to 0 minutes ago. My widget shows the local refresh time as the current time, but the server refresh time is still 20:03. I infer a couple of things:

1. The actual server update seems to be hourly no matter what setting I make or even if I perform a manual update.
2. The server update time on the widget doesn't reflect the real server update time.

Am I missing something? Thanks.

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Everything works correctly. This is some display error. Try the $ {updateTime} variable in accuweathercore1
I have set for 5 minutes in the widget itself, not on the menu. The weather update is every 10 minutes on the widget and accuweather server.
Here, Tony, let's not change anything !!! Because I fought for a long time to make everything work properly.
These 57 minutes are a display error in my opinion and it is not worth paying attention to. The weather coincides 100% with the Accuweather app!



TONY: Don't change nothing!

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Might still be worth testing. I've seen frequent discrepancies between XWidget and AccuWeather. For what it's worth I use an unrooted Moto G4 Plus running Android 7.0. Thanks

The differences may be several minutes, let's not get into paranoia. Everything works correctly and you do not have to change anything. Set yourself in the widget [not in the menu] every 5 minutes and check.

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My seeing a problem that you apparently don't have does not imply paranoia. I just ran another test. In 30 minutes, as the sun was setting, AccuWeather correctly showed a 3 degree F drop in temperature, but XWidget remained unchanged. I have the widget set to 10 minute refresh, and the details to 15. I have a work PC and thus do not have the PC XWidget program, so I edit on my device, which has no ability to set for 5 minutes, as least from what I've seen. The weather details screen changed neither the current temperature nor the server update from 50 minutes prior, despite several manual updates both on it and on my widget hotspot. When I'm going outside, I want to be able to quickly see the current temperature on my widget, not that from up to an hour ago. If I were happy with that, I wouldn't mess with widgets and would just use the one that came with the device. My testing indicates an issue, based on objective evidence, not paranoia.

Also, the refresh time you show above updates for me as well, but it's meaningless. It changes whenever I manually update, but the details screen still shows the server update time from up to an hour previous, with no change in temperature, which I infer to be more than a display issue.

Look at post up. Real time 0:51
Server time 0:41 weather
Not one hour, only 10 minutes

Accuweather refresh weather every 10 minutes

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Look at my post. The widget update is correct, the server update, not so much. It takes up to an hour for a server refresh, and, on my device, it's not in sync with AccuWeather. Just because it's working for you doesn't mean that it's working correctly across the board. I'm a beta tester for a few weather widgets. I'm not a developer, but I confidently assert that there's an update issue, at least on my device and Android version, particularly when I compare it with how native apps and other weather widgets perform.

Ironically, the developers and participants on the beta sites for the other widgets I test seem to appreciate when testers courteously and clearly document issues that arise. Yet when I do so here, others get defensive. If there's paranoia here, it isn't me. If it's going to cause distress to others to point out an update problem, I'll just uninstall XWidget and move on. I think enough of the quality and flexibility of XWidget and simply thought it would be helpful to point out a potential problem. Unfortunately, though, it seems to cause more harm than good.

sbs8331, Slavoo is just a user like you who expressed his opinion. No need to take it personal.
As I told you Tony will try to optimize the refresh process where it's possible. No one denies that there is always place for optimization. XWidget has still a lot to offer. There are many things to add like realtime notes, chart support, linear calendars etc. I'm sorry that you want to unistall XWidget. We always try and we will continue to to do our best and don't disappoint the users who supported us.

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Not really looking to uninstall. Just trying to help when I saw a potential problem and didn't like the resulting "paranoia" crack. Apologies if I overreacted.

Sorry, paranoia is figuratively. In other words, "Do not panic!" Not personal to you.

Screen: 08:17 CET
Last update 53 minutes ago

53 minutes ago it was 2 degrees in my locaion!
Now is 6 degrees!

Second screen:
Again last update 53 minutes ago
Is 8 degrees

If there were 6 degrees less than an hour ago and now is 8, Last update can not be 53 minutes ago!

Everything works correctly!
Have a look at both pictures, temperature and time.
So much in the subject. EOT

@Tony - remove this "Last update ..." from "Weather Information" and the problem will disappear.

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AGAIN:



Word "Updated:" TIME ON SERVER ACCUWEATHER !!!
Time NOW: 09:09
Time on server: 09:02

7 minutes ago is update! NOT 53 MINUTES AGO!
Understand?
In "Weather Information" is DISPLAY ERROR

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Sorry, but that doesn't explain why XWidget and AccuWeather are out of sync on my device. Understand? Apparently not.

Be patient guys. Tony is out home these days. He will return and we will continue the development and bug fixing..

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I'm patient and in no particular hurry. Just pointing out some results of my testing. I can't help if it bothers someone for whom the issue doesn't exist.

Man, for me the problem does not exist because everything works correctly. I have the right to my own opinion.

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Of course you have the right to your own opinion. The key phrase is "for me". It becomes an issue, though, when someone provides objective evidence of an issue and is told that the issue doesn't exist and they're engaged in paranoia.

Yes.. Unfortunately Android as an open source OS and with so many versions and phone models, it's hard to have an app that works perfect for all.
As I told you sbs8331 it's very helpful for us have reports that help us to optimize the app.
XWidget has still a lot to offer.
(Slavoo don't worry. We always try to not break working functions, only optimize)

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sbs8331 - in the morning when the temperature rises quickly, eg 7:00 make 1 screen
8:00 make a 2 screen
Compare, they will be different. If the refresh on the server is every hour then the screens will be the same.
I talked to Accuweather and the forecasting department some time ago, I learned that the server update is every 10 minutes.
Install yourself a free Accuweather app and compare results with XWidget.
With me everything is correct.

Enter the name of the phone and which system you use. Tony will check.

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'Install yourself a free Accuweather app and compare results with XWidget." Really? I've stated multiple times that's exactly what I've done. I saw the delayed server update time then started comparing XWidget with...wait for it...the native AccuWeather app and found them to be frequently out of sync. I'm glad it works perfectly for you, but I've presented objective evidence that it doesn't for me. You can respect that or not, the fact remains. Sorry you either don't understand or don't believe it, but it is what it is. Moving on...

Guys no need to continue the discussion and fight.
Tony will check the whole process and will try to resolve any possible issue about the refresh function.
sbs8331 could you please tell us your phone model and OS 's version? This will help us more and investigate.
Thank you

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Moto G4 Plus, Android 7.0.

An update to this old issue: I recently bought a Moto G7 Power running Android 9.0 (Pie), and XWidget has been spot on. Maybe the issue was the device or Android version. Ironically, AccuWeather's native app widgets fail to update automatic on Pie, something they've acknowledged but so far failed to rectify.