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PostPosted: February 4th, 2018, 4:56 am 
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This post is from an exchange on the Deviantart website:
https://yereverluvinuncleber.deviantart.com/journal/Is-Xwidget-really-dead-It-seems-not-728480739

Imagine Tony, if you will, that you had given a few of us your source code and build tools. That would have meant that by now, over these missing years that the majority of the bugs would have been fixed, some of the missing functionality would have been provided and the Xwidget IDE would be a much more usable and friendly tool.

It does not matter that Xwidgets is your baby, it does not matter that others would see your code and pass judgement, none of that matters. What would have been great is if you had made xwidgets available to the community so that they could take it forward in your absence. Those bugs being fixed would free you to work on the things you want to work on, you could focus your energies on the Android version whilst providing mentoring and help on the Xwidget IDE.

If you want to move on in a sensible way then make the xwidget IDE and engine for the desktop open source and start bringing others in to help you!

I suggested this from the very start: http://bbs.xwidget.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=5878

It doesn't stop you receiving donations and it does not limit you in any way. You can monetise Xwidget Android whilst making Xwidget desktop IDE the de facto development tool for widgets.

There is one thing you are really missing out on. The Xwidget engine is the ONLY tool putting javascript back on the desktop. NODE.js and all those other desktop frameworks are complicated and tricky to configure and use. Xwidget could be the best desktop javascript solution and an industry standard if you would only FIX IT!

It needs a decent IDE and a proper javascript implementation, functions in code, foreach loops, support for the NEW statement with regard to image objects &c &c.

New and updated cores - we can provide some of this! Just give us the code, the build tools and examples and we'll assist where we can.

We have a bug list and a suggestion list. I raise bugs and suggestions, I even raise polyfill code in javascript to fix things. Do you think that by now three years later I would not have solved some of these bugs and fed them back to Xwidgets?

There is me - and there ar others that would have helped! It has been years and it is time to take the help offered. You must work on the things that interest you, Xwidget & rainmeter integration, Xwidget for Android but you are one man and you are spread too thin. You ALWAYS try to do too much. You cannot succeed on all of these.

If you have to abandon the desktop Xwidget IDE and engine then do so - but give it to US so we can fix it without you. You can retain control through being the lead developer and having knowledge of what your code does. No-one is going to supplant you!

Xwidget will remain your baby - You can focus on the new stuff.


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PostPosted: February 4th, 2018, 5:01 am 
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I originally made this post:

- but redacted it when Tony appeared on the thread after an absence of three or more years, his response made me remove the post from deviantart as I want to give Tony the benefit of the doubt and give him a chance to fix things:

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"Is a project dead when the developer refuses to fix any of the bugs in his code? Is a project dead when no new substantive changes are made to an application for 5 years? Is a project dead when the only new code the developer introduces is a new splash screen and a partially functioning but buggy sound visualiser? Is a project dead when the developer refuses to fix his flawed and buggy IDE? Is a project dead when the developer ignores almost all 99.9% of requests for his help? Is a project dead when the developer works only on the things that interest him (on other projects on other platforms) ? Is a project dead when the developer refuses to appear on the support forums he himself has set up ? Is a project dead when the developer gives no roadmap for the project? Is a project dead when the infrastructure for the project keeps failing on a regular basis (forum, documentation, gallery &c)? Is a project dead when the developer refuses to provide any documentation? Is a project dead when the developer refuses to acknowledge repeated offers of help from its community? Is a project dead when the developer fails to acknowledge that he is the sole reason why the project is dying?

I think so.

For example: This is the link for the documentation: docs.xwidget.com/index.php - A dead link, the server/domain is down and has been down for ages now.

Xwidget has been on life-support for years, kept alive solely from infusions from the Android version and from the direct feed pumping blood from the body of JimKing. I tried to do my bit to revitalise Xwidget from time to time, documentation, code samples, migration tutorials, advice on malware, advice on how to monetise Xwidget, bug raising and finding work-arounds. In the beginning I even created a few widgets. Not any more.

Xwidgets is dead and the person holding its head permanently under the water is Tony, the developer. It is time to pull the plug on Xwidgets to declare it dead. Then hopefully Tony will abandon it, make it open source and someone else can pick it up and run with it.

Xwidget is dead, Xwidget has passed on. Xwidget is no more. It has ceased to be. Xwidget has expired and gone to meet his maker. Xwidget is a stiff, bereft of life, it rests in peace. If Tony hadn't nailed it to the perch it'd be pushing up the daisies. Xwidget's metabolic processes are now history. Xwidget is off the twig. It's kicked the bucket, Xwidget has shuffled off its mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the choir invisible.

XWIDGET IS AN EX-ENGINE. IT HAS CEASED TO BE".


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PostPosted: May 8th, 2018, 9:45 am 
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Please keep your journals in your profile on DA. This section is for "Bugs & Feature Suggestions"
Your post about your opinion that xwidget is dead is totally off-topic.
Sorry but you forced me to remove your last post copied from DA and lock the topic.

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